We look at renewed debate over abortion and women’s rights in Turkey as the country’s culture war heats up.

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23 Responses to “The Stream – Honour, rape and the right to abortion”

  1. Saul Goodman

    18. Mar, 2013

    WAS ADOLF HITLER A MUSLIM? WAS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH SUPPORTED NAZI GERMANY, ISLAMIC?

    FUCK YOU AND YOUR FACIST DOUBLE-STANDARDS.

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  2. Saul Goodman

    18. Mar, 2013

    There is still War in Iraq… But nobody cares. So you basically saying thats it was okay to destroy the infrastructure of a country and leave it that way because of it´s past. hundreds of thousands dead people.
    What you mean by after “Islam” ?
    The War between the Shia and the Sunni started after the US Troops left Iraq. Great Job.
    Why dont you take a look at your history of invading other countries.
    The whole World knows whats up. Listen to some Immortal Technique..

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  3. ASMinfise

    18. Mar, 2013

    Mr. Goodman, just look at the history of Iraq, are you blaming the war on “pro America” this time? A long history of WAR is what Iraq has. Look at the history of Iraq before and after Islam. Look at the history of Iraq before and after oil. Draw your won conclusions…

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  4. Saul Goodman

    18. Mar, 2013

    Its about Neo-con. and OIL. Its not about religion at ALL. Only
    Idiots believe that there is a war on religion. You know why people stick more religious and islamic ? BECAUSE your so called democratic countries destroyed their infrastructures. How come your free world dont mess around with Saudi-Arabia? Or north Korea? North Korea would fuck your Oil sucking countries in the Ass. Thats why. And Saudi Arabia is pro America. Makes them the “Free World” too right?
    Fox News is your religion.

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  5. christiansoldier134

    18. Mar, 2013

    SCIENTIFIC FACT,A FETUS /EMBRYO IS A HUMAN CHILD BECAUSE IT CAN BE NOTHING ELSE. FACT, MURDER IS A HIGHER CRIME THAN RAPE,FACT, A CHILD’S BODY IS THIER OWN NOT THE MOTHERS. FACT, MURDER IS WRONG.NOW WHAT’S YOUR EXSCUSE? THE FACT IS,YOU DON’T HAVE ONE.IT’S NOT ABOUT WOMEN’S RIGHTS ITS ABOUT CHILDREN’S RIGHTS. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. BAN ABORTION. FIGHT FOR THOSE WHO CAN’T FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES. ABORTION IS BARBARIC.

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  6. christiansoldier135

    18. Mar, 2013

    It doesn’t matter what “stage” of development a child is in, they are “human” beings and its premeditated murder. They were GOING to be people with lives just like you and me but you killed them and robbed them of that, just the same as if you had walked into thier room and killed them in thier cribs, but worse. If your pro-choice or a pro-choice supporter then you have blood on your hands. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13 JOIN THE FIGHT TO BAN ABORTION.

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  7. ephesians5v8kjv

    18. Mar, 2013

    A child is NOT the body, life or property of the mother, its someone else’s. Abortion is “premeditated “ murder. Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13

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  8. leconfidant

    18. Mar, 2013

    I think maybe BBC and Channel 4 in Britain were very good at laying out the different points in the debate.

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  9. DarknessUnresolved

    18. Mar, 2013

    Well there’s definitely a debate raging on here – always is. But what i’m saying is that it’s not really taken very seriously. The “debates” we have in America on most issues is less akin to GROWN-UPS discussing serious matters, as it is grade school children shouting and screaming at each other.

    The discussions that Al Jazeera and this Stream program have, where your intelligence is not insulted, you really don’t get this in mainstream commercial media.

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  10. leconfidant

    18. Mar, 2013

    Very interesting. I’m in Japan and I’m picking up on this via YouTube (e.g., TYT Nation) and the UK news. I mean I’m not disputing what you’re saying that it’s not prominent in mainstream US media, I honestly wouldn’t know. The rest of the world is outraged at what the republican party wants to do with abortion rights and childcare.

    Do you mean that there is no apparent debate, or do you mean no intelligent debate. I mean I’m not arguing, just checking your opinion.

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  11. DarknessUnresolved

    18. Mar, 2013

    This issue isn’t AT ALL being discussed in ANY serious grown-up way in MOST American media, and certainly not nearly to the extent the International outlets such as AlJazeera cover it!

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  12. Vladimir Wardell

    18. Mar, 2013

    Somehow the word “fundamentalist” has reached across the religious boundaries. There are “fundamentalist” ‘Jews’, ‘Christians’ and ‘Muslims’. The thing that marks all these “fundamentalists” is their willingness to use violence to obtain their goals and I am convinced that 95% of Jews, Christians and Muslims wish to see an end to the violence. I think we should discover where these “fundamentalists” are getting their weapons and stop the traffic.

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  13. ASMinfise

    18. Mar, 2013

    Western intervention is open is well documented, and the dead are accounted for, not like during the 40+ years of oppression. A clear illustration is the regimen of Iran’s Ali Khamenei cloak by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a continuous extermination of the people that diverge from their thought structure is happening at a rate of one every 6 hours. Also todays Al Assad who’s managing incompetence has put Syria in a state of violent revolution & before: Iraq, Chechnya, Libya, Lebanon, Palestine etc.

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  14. ASMinfise

    18. Mar, 2013

    Not the extremist. Is the fundamentals & not the fundamentalist that are at war. The fundamentalist are just trying to be good islamist. The Islamist fight with the free world & each other. They fight their women, gays & their liberals. Islamist make war against Russia, USA, Nato, India, Israel, & against Christians, Jews, the African Religions, & Buddhist, Hinduism, Shintoism, or any other religion. Were they are there’s war, oppression, discrimination, sexism, no freedom of speech.

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  15. Vladimir Wardell

    18. Mar, 2013

    Every religion and nation has its fanatical element. “Leviticus” and “Deuteronomy” contain some genuinely frightful orders attributed to the Hebrew God. There are those among the Jewish and Christian fanatics who believe that they are destined to rule the world. Compare the numbers of people killed by Western bombings to those killed by Muslim fanatics. You chose to believe the propaganda of the war mongers. The people of the world want peace, including the main mass of the Muslim people.

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  16. ASMinfise

    18. Mar, 2013

    Simple. Islam is at war with the free world, & we the free people have become aware of the fundamentals of Islam. We have become educated in the Islamic believe system. It’s documented in the Qur’an, a simple 70K word book. The Islamist identity is clearly foreseen in our common consciousness. The people of free world will not allow Islam to deceive our good will in order to continue harming us & our families. Islams ugly fundamentals are being discussed, analysed & learned by the free world.

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  17. Vladimir Wardell

    18. Mar, 2013

    I agree entirely. I don’t know when, but one day, the children of the world will go to schools where they are taught the rules of civilised behaviour rather than the prejudices and hatreds of the old. I’m sure your aware of the various natural problems approaching mankind. I welcome them. I think they will discipline us and teach us what technology is for; not to make war but to put an end to the poverty and ignorance that drive all manner of bestial behaviour by our species.

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  18. Vladimir Wardell

    18. Mar, 2013

    That’s just plain wrong. In the time of the “Spanish Inquisition” when the Jews were driven from Spain, it was the Muslim people who gave the Jews refuge. Catholic and Orthodox churches and monasteries were allowed in Jerusalem and other parts of the Muslim world at the hight of Ottoman power. The Christians in Europe frequently treated the Jews more harshly than the Muslims. This is just a fact of history.

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  19. Vladimir Wardell

    18. Mar, 2013

    I agree in the matter of the sellers of heroin and certain other drugs. The individuals who buy such drugs are weak, and mentally ill. I would rather see them treated in special hospitals.

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  20. Vladimir Wardell

    18. Mar, 2013

    Could you use other words to write what you have written here? Please excuse me, I do not fully understand your meaning.

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  21. ASMinfise

    18. Mar, 2013

    ISLAM IS A A BIGOTED, ANTI-SEMITIC, INTOLERANT, XENOPHOBIC, SECTARIAN IDEOLOGY

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  22. Evergr3entree

    18. Mar, 2013

    Some videos are more controversial, and they know how idiots will react…

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  23. John Jenkins

    18. Mar, 2013

    Why does she keep leaning over like that? I can’t wait ’till they make fun of this show on SNL.

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